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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.01.30 05:15:00 -
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I am naturally against this.
As a mentally deranged individual, how am I supposed to stalk members of the CSM if their real names are not given?
But seriously it is one of those things where you know it is only a matter of time before someone in the game dislikes the CSMs ideas so much that someone is murdered.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.01.30 21:19:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Frying Doom wrote:I am naturally against this.
As a mentally deranged individual, how am I supposed to stalk members of the CSM if their real names are not given?
But seriously it is one of those things where you know it is only a matter of time before someone in the game dislikes the CSMs ideas so much that someone is murdered. What the **** dude, seriously?
Apparently Hans you have either led a sheltered life or you overstimate the ability of the human mind.
I personally would not risk the probability of their being a fractured mind in a group of people as large as EvE.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.01.31 21:47:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Y'know, I'm with Malcanis here. I'd just as soon remain anonymous, but Frying Doom's tasteless predictions are pretty damn unlikely, and I can deal with some crankpot stalkerish crap on its own. Frankly, the exposure would probably do me some good overall - I share a name with a famous harvard professor and a disgraced college athlete, so the bump in google search results ranking could be a benefit.
Yes my argument is the extreme and frankly absurd level of possibility.
It is very much taking the argument to the extreme but having said that I would still rather remain invisible and comment on the forums than have anyone have my real name, especially as there are 2 people in all of Australia with my name, including myself.
So look at it this way, the CSM is safe, I will never run. So yes giving out real names does have its plus side 
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.02.01 04:27:00 -
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CCP Xhagen wrote:
When talking about human nature (which is not the real issue, as you mistakenly conclude), the street goes both ways.
Not only does it deter people who are worried about their RL names being linked to their online behavior but it also deters people who would use that information to harass CSM candidates and members - both have potential RL consequences.
And this has nothing to do with 'vigilante justice' or 'just world fallacy' - most countries have laws that protect the citizens and police forces that can be contacted if a person believes that those same laws have been broken.
I would actually like to address this as any criminal actions taken would require to CCP to act within both Iceland's and England's privacy laws as well as the country involved's law enforcement integrating that to within their own countries laws. Added on to that the fact that some countries do not have information sharing treaties with Iceland and England.
So it comes down to the defense of people via this two way street is more likely to take forever to legally achieve or not be achievable at all, either leaving the police no suspect as to the crime or worse yet having the entire matter thrown out of court by the police department not following lawful procedures.
I will spell the last bit out easier, A CSM member is attacked, the CSM member tells the police of threatening mails that have occurred within EvE, CCP responds rapidly to the police request for a real name and address. CCP obliges. An arrest is made but anything found after the initial identification is considered poison fruit as it was not done using proper inter-jurisdictional treaties. The case is thrown out of court and the offender then gets to extradite members of CCP for breaches of the privacy act, as there is no urgency.
Or option B the offender dies a happy death of old age waiting for inter-jurisdictional paper work to be done covering 2 (if it occurs in England) or 3+ governments for any where else in the world. Or in the case of Non-treatied countries the police either getting no help from CCP or the help being unlawful.
Oh and of course this relies on the fact that your countries police actually doing anything.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.02.02 22:14:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Scooter McCabe wrote:Okay running with the argument that people with unique last names bear a higher burden of exposure to those with more common names. There is an imbalance here that ought to be addressed. Now what if CCP published the first name and first letter of the last name to answer this problem. You know its a real person representing you, you just look up all their info and know more than you should about them? If people are worried about someone Googling information about them then they should seriously consider not posting pretty much everything about themselves on the internet. I know people that put phone numbers & home addresses on facebook, I know people that basically tell the world every tiny little detail about themselves, but these same people are always worried about what some random person could dig up on them. I've been using the internet for 17 years now & have managed to make myself extremely difficult to find any information on. It's not hard.
Same but the one that stands out for me is I have a business, so that business is registered, so you can see the details on the internet. Subsequently the business address is also listed. From there it is not hard to find my home address.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.02.03 08:13:00 -
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rodyas wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Scooter McCabe wrote:Okay running with the argument that people with unique last names bear a higher burden of exposure to those with more common names. There is an imbalance here that ought to be addressed. Now what if CCP published the first name and first letter of the last name to answer this problem. You know its a real person representing you, you just look up all their info and know more than you should about them? If people are worried about someone Googling information about them then they should seriously consider not posting pretty much everything about themselves on the internet. I know people that put phone numbers & home addresses on facebook, I know people that basically tell the world every tiny little detail about themselves, but these same people are always worried about what some random person could dig up on them. I've been using the internet for 17 years now & have managed to make myself extremely difficult to find any information on. It's not hard. Same but the one that stands out for me is I have a business, so that business is registered, so you can see the details on the internet. Subsequently the business address is also listed. From there it is not hard to find my home address. Well can you at least tell us how many kids you hire to produce the burgers/shoes? Also any tax evasion advice? (Also any job openings?) This is important to help me decide whether to vote for you.
I do not hire children, they cost to much in Australia.
As to tax evasion, again this is Australia and with a business all you ever need to do is show a loss and there is no tax.
But nope no job openings sorry
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:41:00 -
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Just a quick question, is there a url were it lists all of the CCP staffs real names and their countries they live in?
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